tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15447402.post115677766972997249..comments2023-09-18T02:20:14.674-07:00Comments on Pith and Substance: The McWhorter FallacyPithLordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03856231065567376894noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15447402.post-1156981693830577152006-08-30T16:48:00.000-07:002006-08-30T16:48:00.000-07:00Come on, anonymous, a little logical thought can't...Come on, anonymous, a little logical thought can't hurt that much. If "macacca" means nothing in English, but is a pied noir slur for Arabs (racially Berber, and not that dark), then what is the logical conclusion?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I doubt Allen is destroyed by this. If Webb pulls off an upset, it will because of a certain ill-thought out Middle Eastern adventure. Inshallah. But no one's going to change their vote over this, and no one should either. It's just that he can't apologize honestly because that would indicate a suspicious degree of bilingualism.<BR/><BR/>As for our mutual friend Mr. Harris, his story was always that he didn't interfere with police decisions at Ipperwash. If he said, "Get the fucking Indians out of the park" or "Please arrange so that the persons of First Nations descent are no longer in the disputed area", he interfered.<BR/><BR/>I'm not a slur-hunter by nature, dammit. I figure you can't say anything of public interest in this country without being called a racist by somebody, and I'm pseudonymous enough not to care. I put P&S's might behind one poor would-be Appointments Commissioner, if you'll recall.PithLordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03856231065567376894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15447402.post-1156840566703223112006-08-29T01:36:00.000-07:002006-08-29T01:36:00.000-07:00ESS?? Case still -- somewhat -- unproven here, Pit...ESS?? Case still -- somewhat -- unproven here, Pithy Pants, I think, although not for the reasons this McHooter apologist states, and even though I admire your attempt to produce some kinda Mathematical Model O' Bigotry, and despite my natural apathy re Yankeeland's racial overexciteablity (they're so niggardly about it, y'know...) Naw, I think one ought to look more to the content of the "slur" itself than to the debateable contexts and intentions with which it was delivered. What the hell *is* this word "macacca" (sp?), I mean? So it's a simian reference somewhat inherited from dude's *pied-noir* mum: does that mean it's packed full of hate and belittling? Maybe that's *only* true in the North American context -- although, let's be honest, attributing apishness round here to non-black South Asians is probably a bit more puzzling than contemptuous... look, I'm not being disingenuous here; my pale son's pale babysitter has called him "monkey" for years now, and it really is a fond tribute to his propensity for leaping about and screeching. If my kid were black, this salutation would take on a different colour, sure, but y'know, you can only parse and sweat this shit so much. Fundamentally, you must ask, does this pol's deploying of some obscure term, combined with a nerdy but not-entirely-unfounded assumption that an Indo-looking guy is a newcomer to the continent, mean he (the pol) harbours some dank Nazi-esque laothing for darker-skinned people...? I just don't see how that follows. Oh well, dude's career is unutterably sunk and destroyed anyhow. Hope he didn't have any good ideas Yankland will miss out on now.// Bonus Slur-Spotting Anti-Racism question, PithBoffers! When Indians were occupying Ipperwash Park, and then-Premier Mike Harris allegedly stated he wanted the "fucking Indians out of the park," wherein was the Other-hating racism exactly? In the intensifier "fucking," or in the common term "Indian"...? Or was the vile racialist hatred locateable in what he *didn't* allegedly say, "I want the fornicating/propagating status members of the First Nations community out of the cock-knocking park"...? Please advise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com